|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 1 post(s) |
Dr Karsun
Gallente HUSARIA Curatores Veritatis Alliance
|
Posted - 2009.11.24 23:09:00 -
[1]
Well, I just noticed... That maybe 2-3 weeks ago, the prices of CC were 110 or above in jita... Currently they are around 90-95... And they will drop far more soon as far as I see it. I wonder what is the point when the market will get flooded with towers from poses creating complex reactions from people who don't find it worth the trouble of coming every signle day to empty the silos for a 100-200m per month income...
What do you think? How low can the prices get? 80? 70? How much can they drop? Are all other complex reaction products also dropping so fast?
Making custom signatures and banners - check my in-game bio for details!
|
Dr Karsun
Gallente HUSARIA Curatores Veritatis Alliance
|
Posted - 2009.11.25 11:25:00 -
[2]
Originally by: Karanth
What would make them keep dropping? Why would we get flooded with towers anyway? I want to know why you think this here.
I guess they will keep dropping because it will work like with normal economy. When there is a quickly rising supply, people lower prices to meet the constant or slowly rising demand (the demand has no reason to rise, the ammount of T2 mods made and sold doesn't change fast).
The CC reaction is relatively the simplest complex reaction to preform. It's not hard to find 2 moons - one with cobalt and one with silicates and hydrocarbons. You put up two pos, you only have to supply cadmium which is not really a problem (lots of it on the market) and fuel (150m per month more or less). Now, this makes around 300m fuel monthly together plus cadmium - 200m monthly (not sure what are the jita prices now, but ok, lets make it 200m for a months supply). With that 500m monthly spent you produce 20.000 units of cc per hour. That gives you a total of 20.000x24x30=14.400.000 units per month. That was sold not long ago for 110 isk per one, so around 1.6b. Producers earned around 1.1b isk for the price of having to log every single day and some hauling one a week. It can be a *****, sure... But now, with the prices currently at like 89 and still dropping you earn less than 1.3b, so you get around 800m on both pos. Naturally, the market is still dropping like crazy, bulk orders prices are going down an isk or two per day if not more. Some people maintain 10pos, 12 pos at a time.
Those people will see that production of CC for 70isk per unit will be completely not worth their time... Earnning 500m on 2 pos per month while having to log in every day and haul? Not worth the trouble. Those people will sell their POS faction and normal towers and finally maybe the price will slowly rise. Currently as far as I see it, there are more and more suppliers appearing on jita market and other markets, prices dropping... How many people will think that it's worth to put up a pos while the prices are dropping like crazy? Don't know...
But yeah, the basic reason of prices dropping is a huge rise in supply before dominion (no idea why is that though, a poor moment for huge investments of around 1.5b isk).
Making custom signatures and banners - check my in-game bio for details!
|
Dr Karsun
Gallente HUSARIA Curatores Veritatis Alliance
|
Posted - 2009.11.25 23:07:00 -
[3]
Originally by: Tirnan
Quick question
How are you producing 20k cc per hour. From your post i understand that you are doing 2 simple and one complex reactions to get cc. Even with Caldari towers you can do 2 simple and one complex reaction on a tower. You would need at least one large and one medium tower to make 10k cc per hour.
I do 2 simple and 2 complex reactions - two towers, one simple and one complex in each.
Making custom signatures and banners - check my in-game bio for details!
|
Dr Karsun
Gallente HUSARIA Curatores Veritatis Alliance
|
Posted - 2009.11.26 07:17:00 -
[4]
Originally by: EvilweaselSA
also the superefficent caldari fit sucks because it needs to be emptied literally every day
Well, not every day, it has 40h limit, if you empty it at around midnight one day, I can empty it two days later after I come back from university.
Originally by: EvilCheez Cadmium was used with alchemy to produce dyspro. This is no longer profitable because dyspro is half of what it was, so more cadmium for carbonide production- price goes down. More carbides will be necessary after Dominion (which is why all the other carbides have more than doubled in price), so it may still go up. CC started out 2x the price of other racial carbides.
I hope they will go up, although with prices around 90 i'd still be very happy.
Making custom signatures and banners - check my in-game bio for details!
|
Dr Karsun
Gallente HUSARIA Curatores Veritatis Alliance
|
Posted - 2009.11.29 21:27:00 -
[5]
And now CC will only take 0.01, not 0.05 space... So caldari tower owners will visit their pos once a week... (instead of a bit less than 2 days it'll be 5x the time, so around a week easily). And Gallente tower owners once every... month... Not to take the produced stuff out, but to put the fuel in...
Made me laugh when I read the patch notes :) WIN!
Making custom signatures and banners - check my in-game bio for details!
|
|
|
|